tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8091466292216433701.post9169001987127754474..comments2024-01-27T03:35:50.487-05:00Comments on X-Man's Comic Blog: Amazing Spider-Man #700. Part 1!x-man75http://www.blogger.com/profile/10292719455945603075noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8091466292216433701.post-6531946951780931132013-02-06T20:02:01.412-05:002013-02-06T20:02:01.412-05:00I finally read it!
OK, I go into it basically wit...I finally read it!<br /><br />OK, I go into it basically with the same attitude, JT and X, that we're going to get back Peter in roughly the same amount of time that it took to bring back Johnny Storm. (OK, maybe a little longer, since Johnny was gone, what, eight issues?) So, I tried to just assess it on the merits of the story, because I can't say that I'm seriously all that upset.<br /><br />At the end of the day, my main problem here is that, despite Ock winning, Slott somehow manages to sell him seriously short. He basically says that Peter's personality and tragedies are so amazing that they trump any experiences and moments that Otto ever had. Otto is forced to surrender his entire approach to the world simply because Peter's memories are so powerful. It just seems hard for me to believe. I mean, we're talking about Doc Ock, man! A few issues ago, he almost managed to destroy the entire world! He was aspiring to be Hitler! But, simply because Gwen Stacy and Uncle Ben died, he's now ready to be a hero? I just don't buy it. I actually just felt like Slott dropped the ball. I totally support this sort of crazy idea to re-invent a character, but, personally, for me, I don't feel like he managed to sell it, in part because I don't believe what he does to Doc Ock. I've bought the first few issues of "Superior" so we'll see how they go. But, I'm pretty much counting the months until Peter returns.JWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18384937330661711685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8091466292216433701.post-31932721573501654772012-12-28T19:58:50.663-05:002012-12-28T19:58:50.663-05:00Yeah, that's a great point. More than anythin...Yeah, that's a great point. More than anything, comic books are a business. A big one too. I think sometimes we overlook that as fans. Spidey's sales numbers are good, but every now and then you need a stunt like this one to draw in new readers. And that seems to have worked in your case, Alien. I'm sure Marvel could tell the same cookie cutter Spidey stories from now until the end of the time, but you'll have the same, stagnant fan base. This? Killing Peter(albeit temporarily)? It garnered mainstream attention. It was all over the Internet. People are talking about it. Sales will spike. New people will take a peek. Hopefully those people will become fans. I mean sure, you run the risk of alienating longtime fans, but if you can replace those old fans with new ones? That's good business.x-man75https://www.blogger.com/profile/10292719455945603075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8091466292216433701.post-52545912161515582812012-12-28T14:37:32.707-05:002012-12-28T14:37:32.707-05:00Hey havent read a issue of spidey in my life and h...Hey havent read a issue of spidey in my life and here I am so it worked for me... the point is that Slot wrotte a good story and raised a lot of interrogatives about Spider Man future and now I'm hooked I want to know more <br /><br />I started reading mainstrein Comics when I heard that Morrison "Killed" Bruce for the same reasons.. It was always boring to me that to read story where I knowed the hero can't die damm Bruce is kicking around since 1939 so I think that stuff like this when well written are good for comics it pick up interest and atract new readers an diferent audience Aliendw700https://www.blogger.com/profile/09167984702531185247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8091466292216433701.post-55110248779134202452012-12-27T23:26:03.032-05:002012-12-27T23:26:03.032-05:00I think this was kind of the perfect time for this...I think this was kind of the perfect time for this kind of stunt, Astrovik. This being Spidey's 50th, it fits. Spidey/Peter has been around WAY longer than pretty much all of his readers. I can't really fault Marvel for taking a chance. I mean hell, people ARE talking about it(for better or worse), and that'll drum up interest. And interest usually equals sales. I'm with you on how quickly Ock repented though... All issue he's doing everything(and doing it well!) to end Peter, then within three pages, Ock is mourning Peter. I'm willing to chalk that up to time constraints though. This particular situation should have been given more time to grow instead of suddenly happening. An issue where Ock acted Peter like and was puzzled by that would have went a long way here. <br /><br />As for the rape thing, I'm not sure I see it. Ock is operating with Peter's memories/instincts now, and it's pretty obvious Peter still had feelings for MJ, so the Peter part of Ock would naturally have feelings for MJ as well. Granted, there sure as hell isn't a legal precedence for this, but it's Peter's body and what, about 1/3 to 1/2 of Peter's mind? Would that be rape? Nobody is mind-controlling MJ here, if she falls for Otto/Peter, that's kind of on her. It's dishonest(like telling a woman you're a doctor or something to hook up with her), but is it rape? I'd say probably not... But that is an interesting debate.x-man75https://www.blogger.com/profile/10292719455945603075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8091466292216433701.post-46403541373041669622012-12-27T22:08:11.605-05:002012-12-27T22:08:11.605-05:00I kinda understand what you are saying, JT but you...I kinda understand what you are saying, JT but you have to admit this still is kinda pretty damn ridiculous. 50 year anniversary and you end it with this shit? The hell? Otto gets a "shared connection" with Peter and boom! His long time hatred for Spiderman is just all of a sudden gone?! What in the fuck? Or how about how stupid MJ was in this Ock (As Peter) just insults her she blurts she still loves him and they kiss?! There's a reason why Marvel did "What If?" Stories. I'm pretty sure this won't last very long but still this was pretty much a big Eff you to Spidey fans.Astrovikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12099168103566834625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8091466292216433701.post-6372499354365878152012-12-27T21:27:53.291-05:002012-12-27T21:27:53.291-05:00Everyone keeps mentioning that, if Ock and MJ have...Everyone keeps mentioning that, if Ock and MJ have sex will it be rape. Maybe they won't even have sex, and if they do, is it really any different than anyone Ben Reilly may have slept with when they believed him to be Peter Parker? I'm happy that for once the bad guy won and we actually get something interesting from it, I can't wait to see how he interacts with some people like the Avengers, if the Venom symbiote will know there's something weird with Pete if he ever runs into Flash again, and Kaine, considering his past with Doc Ock. You're never gonna see Batman lose to Joker, Superman won't lose to Lex, but Peter finally lost, so I'm excited to see what happens now.Jason Toddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07796190974001777556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8091466292216433701.post-5200902405250483952012-12-27T21:04:51.161-05:002012-12-27T21:04:51.161-05:00Im not even sure how I feel about this..... This w...Im not even sure how I feel about this..... This whole thing was just weird. Imagine if Doc Ock and MJ have sex would that be rape? Plus didn't a similar situation like this just happened a while ago involving Chameleon? I don't know man... I just don't know if I'm going to be picking up Superior Spiderman all this is just too damn crazy. Peter most definitely will be back but this shit is too weird for me right now. Astrovikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12099168103566834625noreply@blogger.com